Have not read anything in that book for a couple of days. My head is full of it anyway.
I´ve been thinking about awakened people. They are strange! Like this last one I read about. Once he was awakened he started, as it seems on his website anyway, to read and study a lot of religion and old sacred texts. Most of them seem to do that. Wonder why? I mean, once you are there, what fun is it to read about it then? That "leftover" part of mind really wants to know what happened, and it keeps them back. I think!
It seems to me that they are not really done. Not the way I think it should be anyway. I might be wrong but that is how I feel about it.
It seems like they all have a bit of identity/ego left in them, connecting them to the bodies. It is human with a Rigpa experience, not Rigpa with human experience.
It is said that the experience has to be strengthened in its abiding in Rigpa. It seems to be able to go back and forth. Slowly making Rigpa stronger then “ego”. It seems like even a backpain can draw one back from Rigpa. I think that is strange. Rigpa should be aware of the pain in the body but should not be affected by it. Certainly not be pulled away because of the body ache.
It seems like this awakening process is a process of a prolonged birth. Several “pushes” to bring the Rigpa forth. Then a period of adjusting the “sight and awareness” from blur to clear sight and knowing. Going back and forth until the pendulum stops and all is known.
So, to go to where my instinct tell me, it seem to be a 20 more years journey at least. Then… what the point of it when this body is 82 and ready to die. Then, there has been a huge effort to get hold of a body to look throu, just to loose it again.
Doubt that the book will be of any help. I am not like the others. I have this picture but the instructions that gives in the writings is not helping me to get there. Just some verifications is found.
Showing posts with label theory. Show all posts
Showing posts with label theory. Show all posts
2008-02-03
2007-05-13
Deep Sleep 070513
My workout sessions on sunday mornings usually presents some thoughts. Nowadays I leave the computere on so I can go and make notes as thoughts arrives. The discussions of late is a big trigger to theorize.
We are dreaming every night. But mostly we forget about the dreams. There is a function that make us forget the dreams. I know there are researches on this, but for now I don´t have the source. Anyway, we all experienced that we dreamt but that morning rituals kicks in and make us forget what we dreamed. We know for certain that we dream each night. Even without memory of it. We have seen our mates, childrens and even pets move in sleep, indicating dreaming.
We also know that some dreams is ecpecially vivid. Never to be forgotten. There are also vivid dreams where you are aware that you dream and in some cases are able to control the dream. I don´t remember much dreams, but sometimes I have the feeling the dream is a message and is purposely made to be remembered.
We also have no feeling of discontinuation despite we sleep dreemlessly.
Now, awareness should be the cause of us not noticing any discontinuation. Awareness is there always, but is not made concious by the mind when it sleeps.
So, what is needed to be able to know that the Awareness is in contol and letting conciousness be aware of it? Not only when awake but also during sleep.
Among the OBE people (I think it was) I have read that they can train their ability to dream Vivid Dreams. And to remember them.
Is it then possible to train our body functions to let “the security level” drop so Awareness can “shine throu it” even when the body sleeps?
Or to take it the opposite way, can the Awareness overrule the body? Can it train the body to sleep when Awareness is still Aware and Consious? Consiousness is the important part as I see it, as that is what makes the mind remember.
Can you teach the mind to leave the door open for consiousness and awareness when body sleeps?
Consiousness is the link between Awareness and mind. When we sleep, conciousness also sleep, but not always. Actually, sometimes we are aware of our surroundings despite sleep. Can that be strengthened?
Which part is the key, awareness, conciousness or mind?
Ok, now I start babbling, soo …enough! Heading outdoors now,
We are dreaming every night. But mostly we forget about the dreams. There is a function that make us forget the dreams. I know there are researches on this, but for now I don´t have the source. Anyway, we all experienced that we dreamt but that morning rituals kicks in and make us forget what we dreamed. We know for certain that we dream each night. Even without memory of it. We have seen our mates, childrens and even pets move in sleep, indicating dreaming.
We also know that some dreams is ecpecially vivid. Never to be forgotten. There are also vivid dreams where you are aware that you dream and in some cases are able to control the dream. I don´t remember much dreams, but sometimes I have the feeling the dream is a message and is purposely made to be remembered.
We also have no feeling of discontinuation despite we sleep dreemlessly.
Now, awareness should be the cause of us not noticing any discontinuation. Awareness is there always, but is not made concious by the mind when it sleeps.
So, what is needed to be able to know that the Awareness is in contol and letting conciousness be aware of it? Not only when awake but also during sleep.
Among the OBE people (I think it was) I have read that they can train their ability to dream Vivid Dreams. And to remember them.
Is it then possible to train our body functions to let “the security level” drop so Awareness can “shine throu it” even when the body sleeps?
Or to take it the opposite way, can the Awareness overrule the body? Can it train the body to sleep when Awareness is still Aware and Consious? Consiousness is the important part as I see it, as that is what makes the mind remember.
Can you teach the mind to leave the door open for consiousness and awareness when body sleeps?
Consiousness is the link between Awareness and mind. When we sleep, conciousness also sleep, but not always. Actually, sometimes we are aware of our surroundings despite sleep. Can that be strengthened?
Which part is the key, awareness, conciousness or mind?
Ok, now I start babbling, soo …enough! Heading outdoors now,
2007-02-08
A Course in Consciousness
next on my readlist. A Course in Consciousness, http://faculty.virginia.edu/consciousness/
Part 1. Quantum theory and consciousness
Preface to part 1.
Part 1 consists of notes on the philosophical and scientific underpinnings of this course in consciousness. We establish the context of our discussion within the three major types of metaphysical philosophy, ask the questions that are naturally raised when one begins a study of conscious mind, summarize the scientific data that must be taken into account in any attempt to understand the phenomena of consciousness, and present a simple, understandable description of the philosophical and quantum theoretical basis for the need to include consciousness in our description of the material world. We shall see that, from a sound, scientific point of view, not only is it impossible to understand the material world without considering the consciousness of its observer, but, in fact, it is Consciousness which manifests the world. However, it cannot be the individual consciousness of the observer that does this, but it must be nonlocal, universal Consciousness.
This page last updated April 12, 2000.
Chapter 26. Very short summary
The following concepts, like all concepts, cannot describe Reality, but, unlike most concepts, they point to Reality.
1. The premise: Consciousness is all there is. Another word for Consciousness is the impersonal, yet intimate, I.2. The conclusions:
I am not an object or entity. Objects and entities are never real. Whatever is supposed to happen will happen. Whatever is not supposed to happen will not happen. There is no doer, so there is no choice.The entire manifestation is an expression of Love.
3. The practice: Don’t believe this—look and see it for yourself!
This page last updated July 16, 2005.
Dialogue in Consciousness question and answer page:
15. What can you do to awaken?
a. Since direct seeing shows that there is no doer, there is nothing that you can do to awaken.
b. Since awakening transcends time, and all practices are time-bound, no practice can bring about awakening.
Part 1. Quantum theory and consciousness
Preface to part 1.
Part 1 consists of notes on the philosophical and scientific underpinnings of this course in consciousness. We establish the context of our discussion within the three major types of metaphysical philosophy, ask the questions that are naturally raised when one begins a study of conscious mind, summarize the scientific data that must be taken into account in any attempt to understand the phenomena of consciousness, and present a simple, understandable description of the philosophical and quantum theoretical basis for the need to include consciousness in our description of the material world. We shall see that, from a sound, scientific point of view, not only is it impossible to understand the material world without considering the consciousness of its observer, but, in fact, it is Consciousness which manifests the world. However, it cannot be the individual consciousness of the observer that does this, but it must be nonlocal, universal Consciousness.
This page last updated April 12, 2000.
Chapter 26. Very short summary
The following concepts, like all concepts, cannot describe Reality, but, unlike most concepts, they point to Reality.
1. The premise: Consciousness is all there is. Another word for Consciousness is the impersonal, yet intimate, I.2. The conclusions:
I am not an object or entity. Objects and entities are never real. Whatever is supposed to happen will happen. Whatever is not supposed to happen will not happen. There is no doer, so there is no choice.The entire manifestation is an expression of Love.
3. The practice: Don’t believe this—look and see it for yourself!
This page last updated July 16, 2005.
Dialogue in Consciousness question and answer page:
15. What can you do to awaken?
a. Since direct seeing shows that there is no doer, there is nothing that you can do to awaken.
b. Since awakening transcends time, and all practices are time-bound, no practice can bring about awakening.
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