2006-07-08

Contradictions of the Absolute

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Last week I got some old questions answered. Maybe it is “counting down” now.

Here is some remaining issues of or about the Absolute. I will quote things I have heard or seen written about the Absolute. I might ad things in this post as I come across or remember things. I just write it down as it comes. No particular order.

The Absolute is, or is said to:

1 Nothing and NO THINGS
2 Everything and ALL THINGS
3 Consiousness
4 Awareness
5 Creation / Maya
6 But creation and Maya don´t exist
7 Is still, no movements
8 The Dreamer
9 I AM
10 Everyting is scriptured
11 No free will, see scriptured
12 Has no interest in you
13 Need you to come back to source
14 Has no needs or wants
15 Has your best interests in mind
16 does not bother with your problems
17 You have to go through “hell” to get there (there?)
18 It does not DO anything BAD to you (yet it dreams my life)
19 If anything GOOD is happening then The Absolute is responsible
20 The creation / Maya is ILLUSION
21 ILLUSIONS don´t exist
22 You have to want IT
23 It “kicks your ass” to clean you so you shall become worthy
24 You as human, don´t get enlightened, maybe the soul does
25 You are already THAT
26 Kill the Ego
27 The ego can´t be killed totally, it is needed to “run” the bodyfunctions




According to science and physics there are actually only energy of some sort. So a lot is not contradictions even if it seems to be.

The Dreamer, that is the Absolute, dreams this dream. It dreams everything that happens to you, but is still not responsible for what happens to you. Does not the Absolute know what it dreams?

I certainly know I am not this body that is typing and thinking. Most people seem to advance through scriptures and religion. I seek answer elswere, because I seek answers to what happens to ME. Mostly I just hate it.

You have no free will, yet you are blaimed for “not wanting this badly enough”.

Why is it that you have to be beaten to be cleaned? Is not love a better way to “raise a spiritual child”? I have been very close to hate a vast no of times.

Why do we have to suffer for past life karma? To be blamed for “wanting to change the deal” when you know nothing about it, just pisses one of.

Seems to be a lot. Will probably need a couple of more lives. But then you have to start it all over again and again and again. What´s the point in doing that? The Absolut is curious and wants to experience it all. That is my take on it. No other meaning.

The body wears out in a life-time. Maybe it takes several life-times to wear out the soul before it “dies” and gets into the Absolute.


Enlightened people say they are THAT, but never claims to speak the word of the Absolute. How can they BE the Absolute without speaking the words of it?

Does the human need the “soul”?

4 comments:

  1. Anonymous17/7/06 14:48

    Your assuming that the appearance of your desire / will is your own, in other words that there is something seperate as an individual you that exists seperatly from the absolute. You do not own any thought, any emotion, any physical sensation, you only think you do, which is the illusion.

    Enlightenment is the falling away of the illusion of a seperate individual that needs to wake up.
    To this end you act upon what you think are your own choices until that falling away occurs. In other words every thought, every desire, every appearance of choice is scripted, where the script is you have the illusion of choice.

    From a human perspective then one acts on these choices, then after enlightenment it is seen that it could never have been any other way. Before that you dont put the cart before the horse.

    There are no paradoxes in the absolute, there are no concepts there for there to be a paradox. Form is but one aspect of the absolute, where form is what is appearing here as illusory. Formless is the thing that allows the form to be. There is no creation as such, becuase everything is one, where one is never two. There is only the appearance of creation, but nothing is actually created since everything is just one appearing in many different forms. Creation also implies time and there is no time in the absolute, it is beyond time. Even at the level of manifestation where there is the illusion of time, everything that has happened is still happening and everything that will happen has happened. As such there can be no creation, everything just is.

    To know that you have to be that and any musing is merely the musing of a caterpillar wondering what it is like to be a butterfly.

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  2. Hi Eddie,
    nice of you to visit.

    I am not assuming anything really.

    Maybe there is no actual contradiction regarding the Absolute. But from how people think of it, talks about it, interpret how it is to live it, there are a huge amount of contradictions.

    This is my way to clear that area from pollution. Because I write it, it is not nessessarily what I think it is.

    But as you say, the caterpillar can´t know how it is to be a butterfly until it became one. And I am not transformed yet. So, I can play the game from human viewpoint. I will NEVER state that I know something I don´t. So, it is not for me to say what the Absolute IS. I can only relate on others and make qualified guesses from my own experience so far.

    Thanks for the input.

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  3. Anonymous19/7/06 08:59

    There is also something else about the caterpillar butterfly metaphor. Given that it lives long enough the caterpillar cannot not become the butterfly. You could think of this karmically if you like, to extend it further than one life. But in the end a butterfly is what u must be and what everyone must be.

    Clearing pollution is good. The real way through is to remove every untruth of life, the pollution of life as you say. In this regard every word I write or every word that everyone has ever written is an untruth too. Untrue becuase it is relative. The only way to know truth is to be truth and thats the dilemma isnt it, for what is true?

    Peace

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